Guidance Counseling

Okay I am reading Wall of Brass written by Robert Daley. In this story, Harry Chapman rose from being a Patrolman and became New York Police Commissioner. He served the military in Vietnam and signed up as private after attending the Police Academy. He was multi-tasking as he had wanted to become President of the United States of America. He studied law while on the job. He brings books and reading materials. He asked his partners favors. That they can make the arrests and the corresponding documentation so gets off early. He was a capable officer as he shot two hold-uppers in a convenience store robbery. His first partner was Bert Farber who mentored him. He has the brains and was primed for Detective Sergeant. He reviewed and passed the exam. His favor was when you make Police Commissioner make me the Chief of Detectives. That he did. His plan was to join the FBI as an Accounting graduate. They probably investigate tax. The Bureau also take law graduates.

I am discussing career progression okay. Peter Benchley believes that the culmination of being a mediaman is to become a novelist. He was wrong. He wrote the screenplay for The Island. Why stop there. You can direct and produce.

Thus being a hardworker is overrated. You get to where you wanna be if you persevere enough. Having the mental toughness is perseverance. Solving problems is perseverance. Hardworking is perseverance. Sleepless nights is perseverance. Memorization is perseverance. You get the idea.

The PBA's 40 Greatest Players

In 2000 the Philippine Basketball Association (PBA) announced its 25 greatest players since its inception in 1975. In 2015 another list of 15 players were added to make it 40 greatest players. The list are as follows, in alphabetical order:

PBA's 25 Greatest Players

Johnny Abarrientos FEU

William Bogs Adornado UST
Renato Agustin Lyceum
Francis Arnaiz Ateneo
Ricardo Brown Pepperdine, DLSU
Allan Caidic UE
Hector Calma Adamson
Philip Cezar JRU
Fortunato Atoy Co Mapúa
Jerry Codiñera UE
Kenneth Duremdes Adamson
Bernie Fabiosa USJ-R
Ramon Fernandez San Carlos
Danny Florencio UST
Alberto Guidaben USJ-R
Freddie Hubalde Mapúa
Robert Jaworski UE
Jojo Lastimosa Ateneo

Lim Eng Beng DLSU 

Samboy Lim Letran

Ronnie Magsanoc UP

Vergel Meneses JRU

Manny Paner UV 

Alvin Patrimonio Mapúa 

Benjie Paras UP

PBA's 40 Greatest Players (Additional Induction):

Danny Ildefonso NU
Willie Miller Letran
James Yap UE 

Asi Taulava BYU
Eric Menk Lake Superior State
Kelly Williams Oakland
Jayjay Helterbrand Kentucky State
Jimmy Alapag Cal. State
Mark Caguioa Glendale CC
Arwind Santos FEU 

Jayson Castro PCU
Marc Pingris FEU
Kerby Raymundo Letran
Chito Loyzaga San Beda
Marlou Aquino Adamson

These lists illustrate the diversity of the Philippines. We come from all races. The most popular of all Filipino players Robert Sonny Jaworski has a Polish father and a Filipino mother. The Spanish influence is all over as the Spanish let Filipinos choose Spanish surnames. That was 1849. I was hooked into the PBA on 1985 more or less. Tanduay was my team. Abet Guidaben was my favorite along with David Thirdkill, Willie Generalao, those guys. Their rival is the dreaded shooters of Great Taste Coffee led by Allan Caidic, Michael Young, Ricky Brown, Bogs Adornado etcetera. Young and Thirdkill brought their amazing play on western shores. In those days, imports are expected to average 50 points. In 1988 Tanduay disbanded and the franchise was bought by Purefoods. The Hotdogs were led by the El Presidente Ramon Fernandez who was traded for Abet Guidaben. Fernandez became the cornerstone of San Miguel Beer. Purefoods was a talent-laden team composed of The Captain Alvin Patrimonio and most of the RP National Team players like Jerry Codinera, Jojo Lastimosa, Glenn Capacio, etcetera. They were sort of inducted into professional ranks. They drafted Gido Babilonia at number one. San Miguel Beer would trade for Ramon Fernandez and the rest is history. They claimed all three conference titles to win the rare grandslam in 1989. Only Benjie Paras of Shell rivaled him in excellence. He is the PBA's only rookie-mvp having won both awards in 1989. Guidaben's fate was not as storied but it was nonetheless vital as he mentored the Pepsi Cola franchise. San Miguel Beer developed into a perennial contender as they maintained a core of scorers Avelino Samboy Lim The Skywalker, later Ato Agustin and the two Dannys. Danny Ildefonso and Danny Seigle. Now in addition to the Spanish and Chinese influence, the Filipino-Foreigners will make their mark in the 90s. High scoring guards from the states were recruited. Mark Caguioa, Jeffrey Cariaso and JJ Helterbrand have registered scoring records in their respective high schools. Of course an indigenous Filipino by the name of Leo Bat-og did not make the list. Definitely not a foreign name.  

Aquaman: King of the Seven Seas

THOSE WHO UNDERESTIMATE AQUAMAN do so at their peril. This hot-headed monarch commands a kingdom that covers three-quarters of the Earth’s surface and extends from the wave crests to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Although he is, at present, a king in exile, his royal bearing is plain for all to see. Like many legendary kings, Aquaman’s royal birthright was obscured by his upbringing as a commoner.The son of Queen Atlanna and a demigod, the spirit of ATLAN, Orin was born with blond hair and the ability to communicate with sea life. These qualities sentenced the child to death by exposure on Mercy Reef, for the Atlanteans believed they were signs of the curse of KORDAX, a legendary monster.

FATHER FIGURE Arthur Curry helped raise the young Atlantean, though he is no longer a presence in

Aquaman’s life.

STRANGER IN A STRANGE LAND Found and raised by the dolphin Porm, Orin believed himself to be a misshapen dolphin until lighthouse-keeper Arthur Curry took him in. Absorbing some of the language and

culture of the surface world from his adoptive parent, the boy took the nameArthur Curry and traveled north. He unknowingly fathered a child with an Inuit woman, Kako, then became the prisoner of Atlantean soldiers. Arthur befriended a fellow prisoner Vulko and escaped, wearing his prisoner’s garb of orange-scaled shirt and green pants. He soon stumbled into a wave-top battle between the PRANKSTER and the second FLASH (Barry Allen).The Flash convinced Arthur to return with him to the U.S., where promoters dubbed him Aquaman.

OLD SCHOOL Orin’s dolphin family were perfectly suited for life underwater, but Orin kept pace by learning how apply his opposable thumbs.

RETURN OF THE KING Arthur found adapting to surface life hard, but discovered a kindred spirit in the MARTIAN MANHUNTER. Like him, he became a founding member of the JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA.Now a famous super hero, Aquaman returned to Atlantis to claim the throne. He made Vulko his regent and led his realm into a golden age.The exiled boy Garth became Aquaman’s surrogate son, fighting threats to the kingdom as Aqualad. MERA then arrived from an alternate dimension and became Aquaman’s queen. Aquaman defeated threats to the realm from super-villains including BLACK MANTA, FISHERMAN, SCAVENGER, and his own half-brother OCEAN MASTER. Aquaman and Mera eventually produced an heir—Arthur Jr., sometimes called Aqua baby. The future of Atlantis looked bright.

PLUNGE INTO THE DEPTHS Shockingly, Black Manta killed Arthur Jr., setting off a string of tragedies that unraveled Aquaman’s life. Mera blamed her husband for their son’s death and abandoned him. An alien invasion shook the Justice League and Aquaman tried to reform it as a leaner, Detroit-basedsquad, but several new members died in the line of duty. A school of piranha later chewed off Aquaman’s left hand in a confrontation with the terrorist CHARYBDIS, and Arthur’s illegitimate son KORYAK (product of his liaison with the Inuit Kako) took control of Atlantis. Aquaman fought back from the brink of despair with the love of the adventurer DOLPHIN and the advice of Aqualad, now known as TEMPEST. Outfitted with a harpoon in place of a hand, Aquaman eventually won back rulership of Atlantis and defeated the sea god Triton, son of Poseidon.

IMPERIEX WAR Intergalactic conqueror IMPERIEX, attempting to hollow out the Earth, chose Atlantis as one of his battlefronts (see Great Battles, pp. 320–1). Aquaman battled one of Imperiex’s probes and seemingly died in battle, while Tempest used his magic to shift Atlantis more than 3,000 years back in time to the Obsidian Age of its ancient past.The other members of the JLA traveled back to restore Atlantis and find their lost teammate, Aquaman. Transformed into a water wraith by the evil sorceress Gamemnae, Aquaman

merged with the entire ocean to re-sink Atlantis and restore it to its proper place in the timeline.

A NEW CALLING Although Aquaman succeeded in restoring Atlantis to the modern era after its stint in

the Obsidian Age, not all Atlanteans were grateful for what they viewed as a sudden loss of power. Aquaman’s efforts to free the city and its people from the control of the sorceress GAMEMNAE resulted in

him being branded an outcast. Left on Traitor’s Reef to die, Aquaman found new life in the Secret Sea controlled by the LADY OF THE LAKE. Exchanging Aquaman’s harpoon for a hand made of enchanted water, the Lady has appointed him her “Waterbearer” and set him against supernatural perils, including the THIRST. 

What will be the Outcome of Pac vs Broner?

Indomitable_Soldier

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:17 pm

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For me it will be a onesided in favor of Manny.
But what do you think guys?



Humble
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:19 pm

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PAC by UD
I hope Pac wins by stoppage though, i like to see 40 ko wins in his record.



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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:17 pm

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Let's just say that both of them are in their best that they can be at this point, Pacquiao can win via close UD if: 1) he can catch Broner, 2) Broner doesn't hit much, 3) judges won't be biased in favor of Broner... Pacquiao has to KD Broner at least twice (very unlikely to happen) in order to secure a victory in a decision...
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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 5:30 am

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Another Knock out will be the most desired by Manny to happen. Not a decision anymore. He knows very much that it is what the boxing world wants to.

Rizi_man

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 2:29 pm

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In case he dominates AB , "THEY" will possibly give it to Pacman. As "THEY" should, to help him settle his US Tax issue ("IRS bugging").... and to pave way for PACS possible rematch with "THEIR Money GUY" ... more money for "THEM" as well. . It should be of course.



lawa_lang..

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Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 11:45 pm

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pac win via stoppage



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Rizi_man wrote:
In case he dominates AB , "THEY" will possibly give it to Pacman. As "THEY" should, to help him settle his US Tax issue ("IRS bugging").... and to pave way for PACS possible rematch with "THEIR Money GUY" ... more money for "THEM" as well. . It should be of course.

Why would they give it to Pacquiao? And why would they help him pay? Broner is a resident PBC fighter while Pacquiao is just a partner... Haymon would most likely stick to his guys... And I don't think they would meddle with the tax issue of Pacquiao...

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:57 pm

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Broner will be finished in seven or eight rounds,


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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:59 pm

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If Broner will taste the power, he will turn into panic and forget his strategy.


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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 3:02 pm

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Broner's copy cat style from money May will be the key of his early downfall.


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Mayweather Promotions and PBC won't allow #May2Pac and they are going to sell #MayAB...

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:09 pm

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magaling lumaban sa mga kaliwete iyang si broner.
may kakayanan din at style ito ni mayweather. at kung magagaya nya iyong game plan ni mayweather
baka ma dismaya tayo at matalo nya si pacquiao by decision. at nasa prime pa itong si broner.

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Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 10:27 pm

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I think the MP camp already studied Broner's capability as a tailor made for Manny's style. It might not end to the distance. It will ends a KO in favor of Pac.


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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:25 am

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Broner will be punished by Manny's power punches in 5 rounds of the first 7 rounds,
Then in 8th , a left straight will kd Broner, he'll rise up only to be met by powerful
combo of punches.Groggy & unable to defend himself, ref will stop the fight.
Pacquiao by KO in 8th. Any bet folks?


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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:43 am

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50/50 for broner if pacquiao is in good shape , Pacquiao By UD

This fight is interesting, PPV wise

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Manny by UD if he is at a 100%. I just read that baboy fernandez and fortune are already criticizing freddie's return. Bad training camp? Probably, yes.

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:33 am

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Bolo_Punch wrote:
Broner will be punished by Manny's power punches in 5 rounds of the first 7 rounds,
Then in 8th , a left straight will kd Broner, he'll rise up only to be met by powerful
combo of punches.Groggy & unable to defend himself, ref will stop the fight.
Pacquiao by KO in 8th. Any bet folks?

Pacman will win, but I don't know if by KO. Once Broner feels the power and speed, he will probably just try to survive well.

Pacman said he can't stop laughing looking at Broner's face, it might affect him


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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 10:04 am

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Mathysee as I watched his fight we could see him brawling every opponents, but with Manny he became wary in his attack. He's not that aggressive. Broner will also hesitate after Manny will do his combo.


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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 8:22 pm

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Manny is not slowing down, his shadow boxing for combination is still terribly fast and strong. I can't see a decision result it would not even go to the distance.


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Manny by UD or TKO (highly unlikely though)

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edroland wrote:
Manny by UD or TKO (highly unlikely though)

Matthysse win might be Pacquiao's final KO/TKO/RTD fight if he continues to fight young champions... Broner is tough and hard to catch...

He can only increase that 39 KOs if he fights the likes of Judah, Corley or Alvarado...

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Broner is easy to be upset when he failed to land his power punches, I think he will brawl Manny and might be out of composure. Then Manny will finish him as early as he can.


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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 7:26 am

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With this article we can now know that Manny ia not a washed out fighter.




“Friction, what friction?"



Was how Many Pacquiao’s chief trainer Buboy Fernandez greeted this Outsider in the second day of the World Boxing Association welterweight champion’s training camp on Tuesday at the Elorde Boxing Gym inside the vast Mall of Asia commercial complex in Pasay.

Your Outsider wanted his thoughts on the reported brewing trouble within the camp as an offshoot of Pacquiao’s surprising decision to rehire his former trainer of 16 years Freddie Roach to supervise the current preparation the reigning 147-pound titlist is undergoing.

“Fake news yun,” the fortly boyhood pal of the fighting senator averred with a mixture of joke and sincerity. “Kayo talagang media, hilig nyong guluhin ang maayos na situwasyon,” Buboy said smiling. “Wala namang gulo, sasabiin nyo agad magkakagulo.”

Turning serious, Buboy said what prevailed in the team upon hearing Pacquiao’s decision on Roach was surprise. “Medyo na-surprise talaga kami. Wala kaming kahina-hinalang may ganung desisyong gagawin. So, when media men approached me and of other members of the team, me, in particular couldn’t offer any answer to their questions.”

Buboy added the more surprised was he when he read the following day that he, along with conditioning coach was hurt by the decision and that will oppose it, etc. “Wala akong sinabing ganoong mga bagay na gagawin namin. Sino ba kami para mag-oppose sa desisyon ng boss?”

“What those who wrote these things still didn’t know is we have one of of slogans ‘Manny KNows’. Meaning lahat ng aming ginagawa tungkol sa boxing career ni Manny ay galing sa utak nya at sa utak naming na pinagsama-sama. Even the way we will conduct his training here in the country is a product of our collegial efforts that comprises in one program.”

To Buboy, who is taking a time out from his campaigning for vice mayor in Polangui in Albay to preside over Pacquiao’s preps for his coming fight with challenger Adrien Broner, explained that what they have started as training scheme serves as the foundation of what they will do in the next seven weeks of preparations. Gagawin naming lahat dito yan sa camp sa Manila, bring it over to GenSan to Los Angeles the next tree weeks and Las Vegas, the last week of our preparedness program.

“We, Justin, Haplas (Fernandez) and Nonoy (Neri) and everybody in the training team are one in implementing all these the past at week without coach Freddie having any say and with the approval of Manny. We will continue doing them when we move to GenSan in the second leg of the program, to Los Angeles in the third stop then to Las Vegas on the final week.”

Pacquiao’s subsequent order was, according to Buboy was clear: coach Freddie’s job will be supervisory in nature. He can suggest whatever it is, or are, in his mind and we’ll follow them for as long as they fit the program. “we’re one in this undertaking: To make Manny at his best comes fight time and win. Anything contrary to that should not be allowed.“

“Hindi naman sa kami’y nagyayabang or something to that effect, but we, this team, believe we’ve just found the way how to bring Manny back to his old fighting form during his last fight against (Lucas) Matthysse, whom he knocked out to win back the welterweight title na hindi nagawa noong nakalipas na siyam na taon.

“When Manny lost nga to (Jeff) Horn, sabi ng marami mag-retire na, laos na. But we, Manny himself, believed otherwise. So, we formulated a program, we implemented it and we proved our point albeit shocking the non-believers, whos still had the temerity to diagnose that it was Matthysse pala who’s washed out and not Manny in their effort to belittle Manny’s accomplishment.

“What they conveniently forgot was in the entire 12 weeks of preparations, the longest we had, ay ginugol namin ang lahat ng gabi at araw noong buong tatlong buwang iyon para pag-aralan kung paanong makapagpapatulog muli si Manny ng kalaban.”

“We’re only given a much shorter time preparing for this coming fight, but believe me, alam na mamin kung paano taalunin si Broner. We’ll again show all and sundry, epecially his fans, how strong, how fast, how smart Manny still is,”

Photo: Trainer Buboy Fernandez (L) does the mitts with Manny Pacquiao at the Elorde Gym in Pasay City at Pacquiao's initial phase of training for his upcoming fight against American Adrien Broner.


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With recent fight robberies, Pacquiao should be very careful... The only way to victory against Broner in a Haymon card would be via KO...

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thedarkdragon11 wrote:
With recent fight robberies, Pacquiao should be very careful... The only way to victory against Broner in a Haymon card would be via KO...

Pac right now belongs in Haymon's PBC universe.....and even though Pac's a newcomer in Haymon's fold, I'm sure Al knows how much Pac is worth to his organization. He can make far bigger fights with his stellar line-up of welterweights and Pac than with Broner. Bum decisions are always a possibility anywhere, pero sa tingin ko naman in this fight it's not Pac against a hometown boy

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PeluBoy wrote:
thedarkdragon11 wrote:
With recent fight robberies, Pacquiao should be very careful... The only way to victory against Broner in a Haymon card would be via KO...

Pac right now belongs in Haymon's PBC universe.....and even though Pac's a newcomer in Haymon's fold, I'm sure Al knows how much Pac is worth to his organization. He can make far bigger fights with his stellar line-up of welterweights and Pac than with Broner. Bum decisions are always a possibility anywhere, pero sa tingin ko naman in this fight it's not Pac against a hometown boy

Pacquiao just partnered with PBC... Just like when JMM (under Zanfer), Horn (under Main Event), Algieri (under Ringstar) and Rigo (under Caribe) partnered with TR, and Khan and Algieri (under Matchroom) partnered with PBC...

Let's just hope for the fights not to be rigged... If I'm not mistaken, PBC has no (if not a few) robbery incidents in major cards so far, even with partner boxers...

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Pac will knockout Broner in Six.

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Death by a thousand left straights...

I see a 9th or 10th round TKO...

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The last time Pacquiao beat a prime, legit opponent was 2 years ago in Vargas and was almost robbed... While Broner isn't legit, he's in his prime and has the style difficult for Pacquiao...

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