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Originally Posted by JAMSKIE 
Speaking of which: https://www.philstar.com/sports/2018.../losing-friend
Last December, the FIBA Central Board gathered to listen to the bid presentations of the 2023 World Cup host finalists. On one side was the Asian consortium of the Philippines, Japan and Indonesia. On the other side was the partnership of Argentina and Uruguay. To avoid a vote that would’ve created tension and division, Baumann convinced the South American contingent to withdraw, handing the hosting rights to the Asian group. It appeared that the South American team had the upper hand if it went to a vote because FIBA president Horacio Muratore is from Argentina and immensely popular with the Central Board and besides, another Asian country China was slated to host in 2019. But Baumann worked his magic to give Asia the hosting rights back-to-back with the promise of Argentina and Uruguay gaining first crack at staging the 2027 World Cup.That's why Baumann was a very good friend of the Philippines. He is really the reason why Lass and Lutz was able to play as locals , hope the incoming sec gen would also be a reasonable person.
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10-19-2018, 05:56 AM#7622
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Originally Posted by analyzed
I guess I don't need to educate people how political lobbying works, the bottom line is this we envision to have the numbers on our side for the OQT
Just watch the MBA you will get an idea
How did we win the 2o23 hosting rights, one can argue a non Asian team should host but they didn'thosting would be entirely different from one getting eligibility.Don't get me wrong, I like JC playing as a local but saying that he'll be playing as a local because of no other effin reason but politics would be a bit wrong isn't it.For me I see it this way,now Baumann is gone, we should pray that the next Secretary general would be SBP friendly, otherwise then there's no bridge to burn so why don't we take it again to CAS.More technical and legal, less politics.
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10-19-2018, 08:03 AM#7623
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Originally Posted by Alex07
hosting would be entirely different from one getting eligibility.Don't get me wrong, I like JC playing as a local but saying that he'll be playing as a local because of no other effin reason but politics would be a bit wrong isn't it.For me I see it this way,now Baumann is gone, we should pray that the next Secretary general would be SBP friendly, otherwise then there's no bridge to burn so why don't we take it again to CAS.More technical and legal, less politics.Polical lobbying using reasonable justification and argument isn't getting things approved by politics alone. It is just the way negotiations are done in the real world
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10-19-2018, 10:52 AM#7624
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Originally Posted by analyzed
Polical lobbying using reasonable justification and argument isn't getting things approved by politics alone. It is just the way negotiations are done in the real worldso what would be the justifications and basis then?
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10-19-2018, 07:00 PM#7625
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Originally Posted by Alex07
so what would be the justifications and basis then?You just need to follow world basketball developments to get an Idea., here is a hint
Kasama Philippines https://www.facebook.com/HoopsHype/v...0425826544377/. Now look at the members of the FIBA central board and ask your self what is important for them, to progress FIBA and the game?
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Originally Posted by JAMSKIE Speaking of which: https://www.philstar.com/sports/2018.../losing-friend
Last December, the FIBA Central Board gathered to listen to the bid presentations of the 2023 World Cup host finalists. On one side was the Asian consortium of the Philippines, Japan and Indonesia. On the other side was the partnership of Argentina and Uruguay. To avoid a vote that would’ve created tension and division, Baumann convinced the South American contingent to withdraw, handing the hosting rights to the Asian group. It appeared that the South American team had the upper hand if it went to a vote because FIBA president Horacio Muratore is from Argentina and immensely popular with the Central Board and besides, another Asian country China was slated to host in 2019. But Baumann worked his magic to give Asia the hosting rights back-to-back with the promise of Argentina and Uruguay gaining first crack at staging the 2027 World Cup.That's why Baumann was a very good friend of the Philippines. He is really the reason why Lass and Lutz was able to play as locals , hope the incoming sec gen would also be a reasonable person.
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Senior Member Originally Posted by analyzed I guess I don't need to educate people how political lobbying works, the bottom line is this we envision to have the numbers on our side for the OQT
Just watch the MBA you will get an idea
How did we win the 2o23 hosting rights, one can argue a non Asian team should host but they didn'thosting would be entirely different from one getting eligibility.Don't get me wrong, I like JC playing as a local but saying that he'll be playing as a local because of no other effin reason but politics would be a bit wrong isn't it.For me I see it this way,now Baumann is gone, we should pray that the next Secretary general would be SBP friendly, otherwise then there's no bridge to burn so why don't we take it again to CAS.More technical and legal, less politics.
"How small ball works: Tall Skilled beats small skilled every time,but small skilled beats tall stiff every time" - Kevin McHale
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Senior Member Originally Posted by Alex07 hosting would be entirely different from one getting eligibility.Don't get me wrong, I like JC playing as a local but saying that he'll be playing as a local because of no other effin reason but politics would be a bit wrong isn't it.For me I see it this way,now Baumann is gone, we should pray that the next Secretary general would be SBP friendly, otherwise then there's no bridge to burn so why don't we take it again to CAS.More technical and legal, less politics.Polical lobbying using reasonable justification and argument isn't getting things approved by politics alone. It is just the way negotiations are done in the real world
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Senior Member Originally Posted by analyzed Polical lobbying using reasonable justification and argument isn't getting things approved by politics alone. It is just the way negotiations are done in the real worldso what would be the justifications and basis then?
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Senior Member Originally Posted by Alex07 so what would be the justifications and basis then?You just need to follow world basketball developments to get an Idea., here is a hint
Kasama Philippines https://www.facebook.com/HoopsHype/v...0425826544377/. Now look at the members of the FIBA central board and ask your self what is important for them, to progress FIBA and the game?
Last edited by analyzed; 10-20-2018 at 08:24 AM.
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